When I was a kid my best friend’s father took me home after a play in which I was Abraham Lincoln. He said he certainly wouldn’t have let his kid play Abe, not with him freeing the niggers and all. I wasn’t really shocked or appalled. I was ten. He’d been at my birthday parties. We’d had cake. I took it for granted that this must be a reasoned point of view.
Thankfully, his view was not shared by my parents, and thus not one that was relentlessly forced on me in my formative years. Racism was not so difficult to see through once the world got bigger than my backyard.
Religion was harder to part with.
Objectively there’s no reason it should have been. Both are anachronistic and exclusionary explanations for why the word is the way it is, and both demand an ignorance of countless facts and an unwillingness to question. In the case of religion this outright rejection of evidence and inquiry is called faith.
On the one hand, religion doesn’t really seem that big a deal. Allah, Jesus, tomato, tom-a-to. I have lots of lip service Christian and Jewish friends who hit church on the weekends and probably pray on occasion before holiday meals and a few who think the world is only thousands of years old. We get along. Can’t reasonable people believe what they want about spirituality and still engage with others who disagree?
Not if they want to go by the book, whichever book they happen to have chosen. If, say, the Bible is your book of choice, you probably can’t even imagine how many people you should have killed today. You might have come across someone who hurled some blasphemy at the copier, some insubordinate children, or some folks who worked over the weekend. But since the news hasn’t reported an outbreak of stonings, we can assume that these parts of the Bible were ignored. As no doubt were countless other portions that no longer seem congruous with our modern and civil way of life and thus have been ignored by most (with some notable exceptions by the Catholic Church and more that a few Puritans) since say, the 14th century. Sadly, portions of other holy books are still taken very literally today. Just attend a soccer match in Afghanistan (this is ‘free’ post Taliban Afghanistan) where the halftime show includes the murder of accused adulterers, or witness the honor killings of women who had the audacity to get themselves raped if you doubt that someone is still taking these ancient texts very seriously.
The point is not that one religion is any more credible than another (at all), it’s that the people we consider moral and civil members of society are those who have to a great degree, lost their religion whether they admit it or not. No matter what they call themselves, it’s hard to find a Christian today who feels blasphemers should be stoned or women treated like the property of their husbands (though Pat Robertson still supports the latter sentiment. In his words, “sorry ladies.”) Instead, most of the ‘moderate’ or ‘evolved’ religious folk we know today have treated their holy books like buffets and taken the tasty parts while rejecting the portions that seem vile to an evolved palette. But doesn’t accepting that some of these infallible works seem a little out of whack open the whole of their story up to further inquiry? Indeed it does, and I would argue that it demands it.
But faith doesn’t work that way. Where the statement “the universe is made of ping pong balls” would require a tremendous amount of evidence to support, the statement “Jesus was the son of God, born of a virgin, and resurrected after his death,” appears to require none at all. And where science would demand that we put this claim regarding ping pong balls to the test, religion demands that we do just the opposite regarding its claims. Faith, it’s said, requires no evidence. And those who question – technically you’re supposed to kill them. Oops.
That doesn’t mean that faithful people don’t like evidence. Were we to somehow discover that we’d simply been misreading Darwin all these years or to find Noah’s Ark (it shouldn’t be that hard to locate given the necessary size; there are 200 thousand species of beetles alone) you can be certain that religious folks would embrace this evidence. It’s only when the evidence tends to directly contradict the words in holy books that religious apologists tend to do things like put the word ‘evidence’ in quotes or ask why we should believe in things like evidence anyway.
That others are to varying degrees religious wouldn’t bother me any more than the fact that people to varying degrees seemed to enjoy Will and Grace. Both seem somewhat illogical to me (religion more than W&G). The difference is that W&G fans are not committing actions ranging from making stem cell policy to piloting jets into buildings in the name of their favorite show.
I wouldn’t begin to ask anyone to take my word for anything. All I would ask of any person is that they investigate their beliefs regarding religion in much the same way they would investigate anything else. If your car keys were missing, what kind of evidence would you demand before you believed that they had been stolen by Paris Hilton, or that a unicorn had flown away with them? Would it be enough if it was simply written in a book that I told you was never wrong. Probably not. But if at the end of your investigation you were duly impressed by the evidence so as to either arrest a celebutard or chase after a unicorn, well, I’d probably want to discuss your evidence, but certainly you’d feel more secure having come to this conclusion through reasoned investigation than just accepting it on faith. And if the loss of your keys demands such an inquiry, surely your quest to know how and why we came to be deserves and equal one.
The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins is a great place to start your investigation. The End of Faith by Sam Harris is good if you have any doubt that presence of mutually incompatible faith based visions of the world are an immediate danger to us all. Perhaps you will be utterly unconvinced by either. Perhaps you will be convinced but decide that it’s all the work of Satan trying to bend your mind. And perhaps, for the first time since someone else started to tell you what to believe about everything from Abe Lincoln to Abraham, you will finally figure it out for yourself.
March 20, 2007 at 11:57 pm
Who says faith requires no evidence? I would think just about everyone who has faith in something that is not completely knowable would still have a reason for his or her faith. Who trusts something with absolutely no evidence that thing can be trusted?
It makes a simple story to say that one has to choose between empiricism and any kind of religion, but there are good scientists who say you don’t have to make that choice. You can be empirical about everything. Mind you one can’t be as objective and rigorous about everything as you can about things that can be studied by science, but even a question as subjective as how you should live your life has evidence attached to it. Look up George Coyne, the former director of the Vatican Observatory. Look up astronomer Rob Knop, who spent some time this past week on his blog Galactic Interactions describing his liberal Christianity, and how he sees no conflict between his God (not the traditional God) and science.
Religious people who deny that evolution is a fact are wrong. There are many reasons they can’t see that. The genetics revolution will make it progressively harder for people to deny evolution as it makes the story of human evolution much more detailed. It would be a powerful defense against such change if people actually did believe something without evidence, but I doubt many people do. The quality of evidence people accept is something else entirely, but that’s a problem everywhere across the political spectrum and religious spectrum, including atheism.
March 21, 2007 at 9:03 am
Faith by definition is – a firm belief in something for which there is no proof; complete trust.
Are there scientists who have erected a wall between their faith and their work? Of course there are. Does that make it reasonable? Of course not.
The idea that we cannot be as rigorous in our investigations of god as we are in any other area, the idea that this is somehow to immune to scientific study, makes no sense. We’re talking about how and why things came to be as they are. That seems a realm well adapted to scientific study, and those studies flatly and overwhelming contradict gigantic portions of the three texts comprising much of the world’s religion. The scientists you cite who have made a truce between their faith and their books have had to cross out or ignore those portions of their holy books. So I submit to you, how many facts in the book have to turn out to be fiction before the book stops being anything but?
Further, many will argue that their faith comes from personal experience, the hand that God has played in their own lives, the presence they have felt, the voice they have heard. And if we’re to take all of these experiences at face value, to in fact accept them as things that really occurred in this world, then shouldn’t that make them just as open to investigation as anything else that naturally occurs in this world?
Religious people who deny evolution are not wrong, they are religious. They are faithful. They believe the infallible word of their god and they won’t be confused by evidence to the contrary. Those who have bent their conception of god to match each revision required by scientific inquiry have traveled so far from the text as to create a truly ‘personal’ god. These people may be Deists, but it’s hard to see how they can rightly call themselves Christians, Jews, or Muslims.
March 21, 2007 at 9:49 am
You might enjoy this article:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1553986,00.html
March 21, 2007 at 10:28 am
I did enjoy the article, and if you’re reading this you should check it out. If nothing else, here are their closing statements:
COLLINS: I just would like to say that over more than a quarter-century as a scientist and a believer, I find absolutely nothing in conflict between agreeing with Richard in practically all of his conclusions about the natural world, and also saying that I am still able to accept and embrace the possibility that there are answers that science isn’t able to provide about the natural world—the questions about why instead of the questions about how. I’m interested in the whys. I find many of those answers in the spiritual realm. That in no way compromises my ability to think rigorously as a scientist.
DAWKINS: My mind is not closed, as you have occasionally suggested, Francis. My mind is open to the most wonderful range of future possibilities, which I cannot even dream about, nor can you, nor can anybody else. What I am skeptical about is the idea that whatever wonderful revelation does come in the science of the future, it will turn out to be one of the particular historical religions that people happen to have dreamed up. When we started out and we were talking about the origins of the universe and the physical constants, I provided what I thought were cogent arguments against a supernatural intelligent designer. But it does seem to me to be a worthy idea. Refutable—but nevertheless grand and big enough to be worthy of respect. I don’t see the Olympian gods or Jesus coming down and dying on the Cross as worthy of that grandeur. They strike me as parochial. If there is a God, it’s going to be a whole lot bigger and a whole lot more incomprehensible than anything that any theologian of any religion has ever proposed.
Back to me now, I’d say the final portion sums up what I’m saying very nicely. Allowing for the possibility of a supernatural presence that works in harmony with everything that we know and will continue to discover about the natural world, why should we be presupposed to believe that this supernatural power is one described in an ancient text riddled with factual errors? The answer is that this is the myth we’ve grown up with, and had we grown up with another myth, say that of Roman gods, we would be defending their existence against the incursion of scientific inquiry. If you feel, as Collins does, that our investigation into the natural world has helped us evolve some very important concepts about how things came to be as they are, then why would you root your beliefs about why in something that predates, and in fact contradicts, much of that new information.
March 22, 2007 at 9:07 am
1) In my head subjective experiences that leave behind objective evidence such as brains in color makes such subjective experiencs more real than less.
2) In the same vein (though your 2nd response speaking for Dawkins makes him seem more open to the ultimate discovery of a god), the idea from a scientist that all religious/spiritual believers are idiots seems about as dangerous as the choir singer that thinks the world was constructed in 6 days rejecting all scientific progress.
3) Maybe I fall somewhat in line with Dawkins.. can’t really say unless I read his material I suppose. My problematic difference compared to many people is that I’m not influenced by one worldview and stubbornly reject all others… I tend to absorb all perspectives and walk through life with an increasingly hybrid vision, with the single most influential part of course being my own experience. Since I’m as likely to attend church for obligation reasons as I am to set up a chemistry lab in my house… this approach works for me.
March 22, 2007 at 9:37 am
Dawkins can certainly border on bombastic at times, though I chalk some degree of this up to his years spent arguing with folks who come at him with questions like, “if we came from apes, why are there still apes.”
Regardless, I think the point is that any mind, including Dawkins, that is open to methodical investigation has to leave room for a supernatural presence, if only because of the impossibility of proving the negative. That doesn’t mean that it has to be likely at all, and it certainly doesn’t mean that it has to be anything like the presence described by our present major religions.
The difference between Dawkins and religious persons is that he would like to subject any claims about this presence to the same rigirous investigation as he would any other claim before accepting it as fact. I don’t see that as dangerous or irrational in any way, while I can not say the same for the opposing view.
I do encourage you to read his book, not because it will convince you of anything in particular, but because whatever you come to believe afterward I think it will be on firmer footing as a result.
And just to give equal time to opposing points of view, here’s a short video from Kirk Cameron explaining why bananas are an atheists worst nightmare. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z-OLG0KyR4
March 22, 2007 at 11:49 am
Ha! I don’t even have to click the youtube link to know how entertaining that must be…
April 22, 2007 at 1:42 pm
Thank You